Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

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Poll ended at Thu May 28, 2015 2:05 pm

Alliance With The Unicorn/Safehold
0
No votes
Endure the Occupation
2
6%
The Path of Compassion
1
3%
Walking The Earth
0
No votes
Guard The Way
0
No votes
We Can Rebuild
0
No votes
The Path of Creation
2
6%
Blossoms In The Wind
0
No votes
Honorable Hostages
2
6%
The Left Hand's Duty
26
79%
 
Total votes: 33

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Kakita Shiro » Thu May 28, 2015 5:03 pm

And a lot also play the CCG. Like me.
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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Daramere » Thu May 28, 2015 5:05 pm

Do you remember that, when people last had to pay for IA memberships, it was a constant complaint that it provided no value to RPG players so they didn't want to pony up for it?

If you want to complain about something serious, go back to the part where we've all been getting charged for IA memberships all year while they've been providing none of the promised content.

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Kakita Shiro » Thu May 28, 2015 5:19 pm

Daramere wrote:Do you remember that, when people last had to pay for IA memberships, it was a constant complaint that it provided no value to RPG players so they didn't want to pony up for it?

If you want to complain about something serious, go back to the part where we've all been getting charged for IA memberships all year while they've been providing none of the promised content.

And no customer service for it.
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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Martino » Fri May 29, 2015 10:59 am

That just makes it an even worse avenue for these kinds of decisions. Not only does it exacerbate divides in different kinds of customers, but it's not known for being particularly well-run in the first place.

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Kakita Mitsuhide » Sat May 30, 2015 1:03 am

You do know that no matter what Path's are chosen for each respective clan that AEG is not going to come along and tear pages out of RPG books, or in any other way invalidate them. It's the RPG, players can do whatever they like, running whatever game they like, in whatever timeline they like. Why all this worry?

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Doji Satevis » Sat May 30, 2015 7:01 am

Kakita Mitsuhide wrote:You do know that no matter what Path's are chosen for each respective clan that AEG is not going to come along and tear pages out of RPG books, or in any other way invalidate them. It's the RPG, players can do whatever they like, running whatever game they like, in whatever timeline they like. Why all this worry?


Because annihilating existing options means those options will stand next to no chance of turning up in rpg material again, in the near future and perhaps for a long, long time to come.

What comes afterward will, perforce, reflect the new way of the world. L5R 4e is more or less near the end of its development cycle; if the Crane -- or other Clans -- are radically changed, parts excised, in the meantime, new material for L5R 5e may not bear much resemblance to what players want to play. (I do not envy the Spider rpg players in the slightest.)
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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Kakita Mitsuhide » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:54 am

This isn't D&D, it doesn't need to have an update every 5 years just to keep selling books. There's no reason why they would need to do a 5th edition of the game. And even if they did it'll most likely look similar to the 4th edition version that was storyline free (or at least mostly free and not bound and tied completely together).

So again, worrying about potential invalidation of the RPG line, or areas within it, seems a little foolish. Especially when the 4 iconic areas of the clan have been 'saved' as it were.

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Daramere » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:33 am

You speak as if releasing a new edition of a game in order to sell more books was somehow a D&D-specific thing.

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Kakita Mitsuhide » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:08 am

And I keep seeing people assuming that choice 'X' will result in no more Doji Courtiers, or Dragon Monks or whatever other 'thing' will ever be printed in an RPG book because they now no longer exist. Even though said things have existed for 20 years (or pretty much all the entirety) of L5R's life. Why assume that a game that is currently timeline neutral is going to go away from that if a new edition was designed/written/printed?

As for the picking on D&D thing I used that as an example since that's the big game that has updated itself between 2 editions in a short space of time. Pathfinder hasn't, NWoD hasn't (updated but not major reprints invalidating earlier material), Dark Heresy/40K RPG has recently but that games 1st edition came out before 4e L5R and that's streamlining of material again. Most RPG products are on the market for longer than 5 years before an update is considered.

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Re: Another Way - Proposals for Alternate Story Paths

Postby Doji Satevis » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:00 am

Kakita Mitsuhide wrote:And I keep seeing people assuming that choice 'X' will result in no more Doji Courtiers, or Dragon Monks or whatever other 'thing' will ever be printed in an RPG book because they now no longer exist. Even though said things have existed for 20 years (or pretty much all the entirety) of L5R's life. Why assume that a game that is currently timeline neutral is going to go away from that if a new edition was designed/written/printed?

As for the picking on D&D thing I used that as an example since that's the big game that has updated itself between 2 editions in a short space of time. Pathfinder hasn't, NWoD hasn't (updated but not major reprints invalidating earlier material), Dark Heresy/40K RPG has recently but that games 1st edition came out before 4e L5R and that's streamlining of material again. Most RPG products are on the market for longer than 5 years before an update is considered.


Just for the sake of devil's advocate:

AD&D -- 1977-81
AD&D 2e -- 1989-91
3e -- 2000
4e -- 2008
5e -- 2014

I am ... not seeing that short of a turnaround, so sorry for your trouble. And then there are the multiple editions of cWoD (various games), Shadowrun, Exalted, and so forth.

To say nothing of that your tossing out of D&D-isms and turnaround does nothing to address my actual point, that L5R 4e is reaching saturation point and if AEG expects to continue making reasonable income, there will be a new edition, because that is how rpgs -- all rpgs -- work. And there is legimate concern of what may or may not be included in such a thing.

As for elements always remaining in L5R because they have always been there, well, consider this:
http://www.spiderclan.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1700
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