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Author Topic: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro  (Read 1167 times)

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[EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« on: February 19, 2012, 11:54:05 AM »

From the EoW article in Imperial Herald 3.10:

Tsuruchi Shichiro - Personality
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Mantis Clan • Samurai • Naval • Sensei • Loyal

After Shichiro enters play: Discard all your other Sensei personalities.
After a Ranged Attack resolves that your Mantis Clan Personality performed: Once per battle, you may move him home.
"He does not rely on just swords to inspire." -Yoritomo Hiromi

(Wording and mechanics subject to change with official preview.)
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 05:29:21 AM »

Oh this guy is going to be FUN!

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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 09:23:50 AM »

Here's one for our newest member of the Rules Team - Obviously it's a previewed card, subject to change, but as it reads at the moment, it seems to give each Mantis Clan Personality the ability to get out of dodge once per battle, rather than what I suspect should be giving the Mantis Clan Player the ability to once per battle, moving one guy home.

I assume it is the latter, but I figured it best to get a handle on this now.
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 10:14:03 AM »

From the EoW article in Imperial Herald 3.10:

Tsuruchi Shichiro - Personality
4F 3C
-HR 7GC 1PH
Mantis Clan • Samurai • Naval • Sensei • Loyal

After Shichiro enters play: Discard all your other Sensei personalities.
After a Ranged Attack resolves that your Mantis Clan Personality performed: Once per battle, you may move him home.
"He does not rely on just swords to inspire." -Yoritomo Hiromi

(Wording and mechanics subject to change with official preview.)

Hey Benny, with this guy... is the once per battle tag tied to each person (as quantified by "him") or is it tied to once per battlefield?

The way I read it is that basically each personality has the trigger: Once per battle, after I shoot, you may move me home.  Otherwise, would the trait be worded: Once per battle, after a ranged attack resolves that your Mantis Clan Personality performed: Move him home.

I think this card is deceptively scary if the sensei can basically hit all of your people with his trait.
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 10:23:56 AM »

Okay, apparently the site isn't going to let me change my post to include important words like "may."  Just putting it out there that I understand the importance of that little word and how it changes the context of his trait... still doesn't change the matter of if his trait applies once to the battlefield or once to each person involved in the current battlefield.
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 10:40:05 AM »

Remember that traits are not abilities and you guys should be able to figure this out without an unofficial official clarification.  ;D
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 10:44:30 AM »

Remember that traits are not abilities and you guys should be able to figure this out without an unofficial official clarification.  ;D

I hate you sometimes =P

From what I see is that he allows each person to move home once per battle after he pews something, just by the placement of the "Once per battle" statement.  That is just me, though, I am trying to figure out if this guy is really as good as he looks... or if he is just meh... Isas.
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 04:02:15 PM »

Had the "once per battle" clause been placed before the colon, then the trait would only be triggered once per battle (the first time a Mantis Clan Personality performed a Ranged Attack each battle). By placing that clause after the colon, it instead signifies that the effect of the triggered trait is limited to once per battle.

The trait does not differentiate between Mantis Clan Personalities. Clauses such as "once per battle per Performer" are used to track limited uses among multiple Personalities.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 04:05:27 PM by Soshi Suteibu »
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Re: [EoW] Tsuruchi Shichiro
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 04:10:31 PM »

That's pretty much what I figured, but just wanted a little clarity before proclaiming this is how it works.  And it is pretty much that way for the reasons I outlined... the placement of the "Once per battle" clause specifically where it is in the trait.
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