Topic: Kalani's Landing pre-TSE(due to me not reviewing the TSE card pool) (Read 1855 times)

Daidoji Derek · « **Reply #15 on:** June 29, 2012, 08:44:42 AM »

It's amazing how many people can't target your personality that has Legion of Pain attached.

Kakita Kizuku · « **Reply #16 on:** June 29, 2012, 08:58:01 AM »

Quote from: DAIDOJI PINUKIPAI on June 29, 2012, 08:35:06 AM

Having suddenly realised Mantis have some commanders, I think you're ok on Commanders;Actions ratio.

However Hiromi's Vassals still suck. It's 4G for 3F, but you have to bow them for a Ranged 6.

Yes you don't run Tsuruchi House Guard, which is same force:gold ratio, but doesn't bow for 1 less ranged attack, though you can compare it against gold (meaning you can kill 7G people with it even if they're big force). You could be running Village Guardians for great card draw (and you have the means to pick them out of your discard and use them again). There's also Elite Sentry (which you should have), and Village Raiders (which are pretty good).

I think there's a lot of far superior choices to Hiromi's Vassals for a follower slot.

I'd also swap Shinden Shorai for something else anyway. You won't have enough gold to attach big things AND buy a guy AND buy some form of defense.

Oh, Hidden Defenses too. And you need to acquire Creating Order and Game of Dice so badly. If ytou have to give someone your soul for them, do it

I know where you are coming from with the whole vassals=bad and I derped a little on the house gaurd( totally forgot about the interaction with the SH) but I do want to fill 3 follower slots with 4gc followers as they allow for comfortable spending, and I want them to be followers with relevant battle actions that I am able to use Unsafe Passage on a little more consistantly than just champ of thunder. Elite Sentry does warrant 1 of the follower slots but it is difficult to make that cut based on what I said earlier in this post.

As for Shinden Shorai it is a place holder for The Second City.

The deck is super light on actual movement tech but it is hard to cut anything at this point, and of course I would NEED to sell my soul for the both of those cards

Kakita Kizuku · « **Reply #17 on:** June 29, 2012, 08:59:57 AM »

Quote from: Daidoji Derek on June 29, 2012, 08:44:42 AM

It's amazing how many people can't target your personality that has Legion of Pain attached.

Especially with that SH reaction

Fox · « **Reply #18 on:** June 29, 2012, 10:12:04 AM »

I think Ive lost 1 game where Ive put Shadow Dragon in play.

Also, Ring of Water is actually a bit overrated at the moment if you cant reliably put it in play. The extra options offered by Rumors Travel/Broken Alliance/Height of Courage are generally better than the ability to save your guy. Granted, if you feel you can consistently put Water in play, go for it.

Kakita Kizuku · « **Reply #19 on:** June 29, 2012, 10:59:16 AM »

Fox, Reading your article was the tip of the iceberg for making me want to build some sort of KL deck so I respect your views. I did say that the deck still needs more testing on my part for familiarity, and I also did cut Shadow Dragon based solely on my local environment. As for Ring of Water I sorta share your thoughts here but it has not been having a big enough impact testing wise(I have not seen it in a game yet while testing) I feel I should keep it in for another week to see how(if) it plays.

Fox · « **Reply #20 on:** June 29, 2012, 11:09:47 AM »

Quote from: Kakita Kizuku on June 29, 2012, 10:59:16 AM

Fox, Reading your article was the tip of the iceberg for making me want to build some sort of KL deck so I respect your views. I did say that the deck still needs more testing on my part for familiarity, and I also did cut Shadow Dragon based solely on my local environment. As for Ring of Water I sorta share your thoughts here but it has not been having a big enough impact testing wise(I have not seen it in a game yet while testing) I feel I should keep it in for another week to see how(if) it plays.

The thing is is that the decks youre weak against dont turn around based on you not having Shadow Dragon in your deck. Dishonor is going to be a bad matchup for you regardless of whether he's in the deck or not. If you feel Legion of Pain is your trump there, thats fine. Its a good card, and one that Ive added in a couple times to my deck. However, the downside of having to sweep Shadow Dragon against dishonor (and sometimes honor) doesnt come close to outweighing the fact that he can single-handedly win you military games. Even if youre saying honor/dishonor is half of your local environment (which is almost never true), sweeping a card that is dead vs them is a fair price to pay for such a beating of a card vs military.

Kakita Kizuku · « **Reply #21 on:** June 29, 2012, 11:15:33 AM »

Quote from: Fox on June 29, 2012, 11:09:47 AM

Quote from: Kakita Kizuku on June 29, 2012, 10:59:16 AM
Fox, Reading your article was the tip of the iceberg for making me want to build some sort of KL deck so I respect your views. I did say that the deck still needs more testing on my part for familiarity, and I also did cut Shadow Dragon based solely on my local environment. As for Ring of Water I sorta share your thoughts here but it has not been having a big enough impact testing wise(I have not seen it in a game yet while testing) I feel I should keep it in for another week to see how(if) it plays.

The thing is is that the decks youre weak against dont turn around based on you not having Shadow Dragon in your deck. Dishonor is going to be a bad matchup for you regardless of whether he's in the deck or not. If you feel Legion of Pain is your trump there, thats fine. Its a good card, and one that Ive added in a couple times to my deck. However, the downside of having to sweep Shadow Dragon against dishonor (and sometimes honor) doesnt come close to outweighing the fact that he can single-handedly win you military games. Even if youre saying honor/dishonor is half of your local environment (which is almost never true), sweeping a card that is dead vs them is a fair price to pay for such a beating of a card vs military.

Fair point, I will take it into further consideration. Looking at my personality base what would you suggest getting rid of to fit him in? The Dark Naga? I like the seudo superfriends feel this has with the amount of power uniques in it. So where I am sold on the SD is of no issue at this point it is more of an issue of where does he fit.

Fox · « **Reply #22 on:** June 29, 2012, 11:22:08 AM »

I had to read what Hida Fujita did, so its safe to say thats who I'd cut.

Dirty Ryo · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2012, 11:08:34 AM »

why would you take money lender out when it ones of the best holdings for the deck especially when combined with govern the land?

Kakita Kizuku · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2012, 07:52:02 PM »

Quote from: Dirty Ryo on June 30, 2012, 11:08:34 AM

why would you take money lender out when it ones of the best holdings for the deck especially when combined with govern the land?

I am just thinking of doing it for testing purposes, I am well aware of Moneylender's power in this deck; after all it turns kalani gold into attachment gold >.>

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